Ever find yourself at the crossroads of comfort and purpose, uncertain of the sacrifices required to forge a meaningful existence? Today we invite you into a profound discussion with Bruce Allen from Real Life with Bruce, where we unveil the intricate dance of living intentionally. We navigate the terrains of hard choices, understanding the significance of letting go and the gravity of authenticity in an era where social media often dictates worth. This episode isn't about quick fixes; it's an exploration of the depth and grit it takes to curate a life that resonates with your core values.
As your host Jamie Hansell, I get personal about the relentless dedication behind Living in Purpose on Purpose, equating the behind-the-scenes grind to the unwavering persistence needed in every meaningful relationship. Bruce and I share anecdotes that underpin the message that the sum of our connections shapes our journey – whether climbing the career ladder or cultivating a sense of self. We discuss the nuances of perseverance and the vital role of supportive relationships in reaching the heights of our aspirations, recognizing that it is those who walk with us that often illuminate the path.
Stay tuned till the end, where we strategize on how to sculpt a social circle that catalyzes growth, challenging you to reflect on the power your personal network wields over your ambitions. Join us as we dissect the importance of aligning with individuals and partners who share and support your vision. We cap things off by sharing our excitement for the potential of social media as a tool to connect and inspire, inviting you to join our vibrant communities online. This isn't just another conversation; it's a gateway to a life lived with deliberation and intent, featuring guidance from those who've walked the talk. - Connect with Bruce : www.instagram.com/@thereallifebruceallen www.facebook.com/BruceGA https://www.youtube.com/@RealLifeWBruce
Ever find yourself at the crossroads of comfort and purpose, uncertain of the sacrifices required to forge a meaningful existence? Today we invite you into a profound discussion with Bruce Allen from Real Life with Bruce, where we unveil the intricate dance of living intentionally. We navigate the terrains of hard choices, understanding the significance of letting go and the gravity of authenticity in an era where social media often dictates worth. This episode isn't about quick fixes; it's an exploration of the depth and grit it takes to curate a life that resonates with your core values.
As your host Jamie Hansell, I get personal about the relentless dedication behind Living in Purpose on Purpose, equating the behind-the-scenes grind to the unwavering persistence needed in every meaningful relationship. Bruce and I share anecdotes that underpin the message that the sum of our connections shapes our journey – whether climbing the career ladder or cultivating a sense of self. We discuss the nuances of perseverance and the vital role of supportive relationships in reaching the heights of our aspirations, recognizing that it is those who walk with us that often illuminate the path.
Stay tuned till the end, where we strategize on how to sculpt a social circle that catalyzes growth, challenging you to reflect on the power your personal network wields over your ambitions. Join us as we dissect the importance of aligning with individuals and partners who share and support your vision. We cap things off by sharing our excitement for the potential of social media as a tool to connect and inspire, inviting you to join our vibrant communities online. This isn't just another conversation; it's a gateway to a life lived with deliberation and intent, featuring guidance from those who've walked the talk. - Connect with Bruce : www.instagram.com/@thereallifebruceallen www.facebook.com/BruceGA https://www.youtube.com/@RealLifeWBruce
Welcome to Living in Purpose on Purpose. I'm your host, jamie Hensel, and welcome to my podcast. Today I have Bruce Allen here with me for our first interview of the season and the first interview of the year. I'm super excited, but without further ado, I do want him to introduce himself. But before we get there, I want to make sure you're following us on Instagram I live in purpose on purpose and Facebook living in purpose on purpose. Now. We do have a TikTok now. It's very new to me, but make sure you follow us at Living in Purpose pod and also on YouTube, living in Purpose on Purpose podcast. Make sure you subscribe, like and share with your friends and family. So how are you doing today, bruce?
Speaker 2:
I'm doing great. I'm excited to be here, I've been anticipating this day, and so I'm very excited. I'm glad to be here with Living on Purpose, and so I am Bruce Allen, and with Real Life with Bruce, I also have a podcast, and so I would like for you all to follow me on Instagram the real life Bruce Allen, and then on Facebook, bruce Allen, and so I'm just happy to be here. Thank you so much for inviting me.
Speaker 1:
It's so exciting because this is my first interview of the season. I'm super nervous about it. I haven't done an interview in a while, like a few years. I used to do them all the time, the same type of concept, the last episode of the month, and it was just something I did all the time, and now this just feels like it's new all over again. It's very nerve-wracking, but bear with me. Y'all bear with me too.
Speaker 1:
We're gonna do this thing. Okay, we're still fairly new to YouTube and all that stuff too, but if you're listening to us via audio, thank you for tuning back in again, make sure you're checking us out on YouTube and if you're watching us on YouTube, welcome back. So thank you for your introduction. I'll have all of Bruce's socials listed below on the episode on YouTube everything. But I did want you to just give the people a little insight about who you are or what you do, and just let them know so when they go to connect with you, they can know what to look for. To look for, okay yes.
Speaker 2:
So what I do is I also have a podcast. Amy's actually helping me behind the scenes, but she's actually helping me but what I do is I give out information that is to not only encourage and inspire you, but to have you think differently than what you may have been brought up like, not trying to say that how you were taught is the wrong way, but just have you think outside the box. And so I give out inspirational quotes, I post things that make you think, I post things that make you look into other aspects of life. And so we're just here to motivate people, inspire, to encourage and to push people beyond what they're used to.
Speaker 1:
Okay, I like it. It's very much a believing in purpose on purpose, as Allie. So that's why I felt like you would be a great first interview for the year, for the season, because just a lot of similarities within there that I feel like my viewers would benefit from hearing that perspective and vice versa. So, of course, you already told us a little bit about what you do, but I did want to see you pick your brain a little bit about what type of goals and aspirations you have. What can we look forward to when it comes to the real life with Bruce?
Speaker 2:
Yes, so the goals that we have for real life with Bruce is actually to not only give out that information, to inspire and motivate, to encourage, to have you people think outside the box, but it's also to eventually be able to help those in need.
Speaker 2:
So on a financial level, not just a mental and emotional level to have people think, but to financially bless people with cars, with paying people's light bills, giving out groceries, helping the homeless, establishing other type of non-for-profit. So it's definitely something that we're not just trying to do it from here and it's just about real life with Bruce. No, it's about trying to help you all and listen. The extra thousand dollars right now would help me today. So why?
Speaker 1:
can't we do that?
Speaker 2:
with those who are watching and everybody. We're going to try to, even though it's going to be millions of subscribers in the future but try to every subscriber to be able to bless them in some way.
Speaker 1:
I love that. I love that because you don't see that too often, especially within the podcast community. You see that a lot on some type of YouTube kind of level or people. That's like the one off on TikTok, where it's kind of just like a visual thing, not saying that their intentions are not pure, but it's more on that. So it sounds great and it sounds like something that I think the community can really benefit from as far as the podcast community, because we don't have many people doing that.
Speaker 2:
Right, right, and it's just something that I've watched and I've always had a desire to help. I've always I give to those in need, it doesn't matter who it is, I mean, you know, if I have it, I'm a blessing to be a blessing, I'm blessed to be a blessing. So that's what I would try, we like to do for our community.
Speaker 1:
Sounds great. Well, we want to get this interview going, so I hope you guys heard something that really resonated with you, that you would want to go on head on over and connect with Bruce. But wait, before you go, make sure you keep listening to the podcast. So, first things first, I wanted to get your insight on a few things. Of course, this is an interview, so these are just different topics that I feel like everyone has their own perspectives on.
Speaker 1:
Thank you, my followers and my viewers and my listeners listen to me all day and I have like this kind of set mentality about things.
Speaker 1:
But the reason why I do interviews is number one, to create a platform or to share my platform with other people so that they can gain, obviously, of our audience or a following or mutual type of listeners.
Speaker 1:
But I also think that we cannot put certain things or certain people in in a box. So I feel like here and other perspective from a male perspective or even from any I'll have different types of people that do it and we, of course, bruce and our Journey on the podcast is a little bit similar, but in the future they may be, there may be other people that is not on that same path and I just want to give people an alternative outlook on certain topics or certain ideas, so we can kind of get it going. So first things first. I just wanted to see, in your opinion, what are some things that people can do to make sure they're living a purposeful life, or Things that they don't think they should be doing some more. So the things that are contrary to popular belief, things that we don't really shed too much light on, but it's key to living a purposeful life or doing things on purpose.
Speaker 2:
Yeah. So when it pertains to doing things on purpose and what people would do, in my opinion that may not be popular because of how things have Transformed over the years, because of what we've been introduced to and things such as that. You know, even we started out with my space and that's all we had, so we weren't really exposed to much as Different social media platforms as these people have today. But I believe one of the things is sacrificing when it comes to your purpose. People have to realize you have to sacrifice somewhere.
Speaker 2:
You have to sacrifice like you can't. You can't have fun all the time and expect to save money. You can't go out all the time and be like why am I? Why is my account negative two hundred dollars? But you're trying to save, it just doesn't work. You have to sacrifice somewhere, whether it's your time, whether it's your money, whether it's your space, to be able to get to where you're trying to go purposefully you know, not just going with the flow, but being able to Move forward to where you want to go.
Speaker 2:
You have to sacrifice.
Speaker 1:
That's really good, cuz like okay. So when I'm doing this entry, I kind of try to predict the things that people would say based on how they are, who they are, and I did not see sacrifice coming. I did not see that. That was just like a total blindside. But I feel like that was so important and that is a great point, because a lot of times when people think of Purposeful living or in a sense reaching their goals or reaching that level of status or whatever your which you define, living in purpose or doing it purposefully looks like a lot of times people see that as a gaining Opportunity, like what am I gaining? What am I gaining? What am I getting? What am I receiving? I, we're just that type of society. We just want to know what's the benefit.
Speaker 2:
What's the benefit?
Speaker 1:
Okay, if I'm living purpose on purpose, what am I gonna get from this? I'm I'm, I'm gonna be happy. Am I gonna have money? And I'm gonna be successful on this level? I'm gonna have these connections, am I gonna? It's just always. Everything is always beneficial, right? So you never think or hear People saying, okay, well, to be purposefully living in your life, you need to sacrifice things. You need sacrifice time, you need sacrifice money. Sometimes you have to sacrifice people.
Speaker 1:
Yes, you do family included, friends included. So I really like that point. I think that's great because, like I said, that's just something that people don't Want to accept right that sometimes you have to let go of things. Some things are not meant to be in your life forever. Some people aren't meant to be in your life forever, and to purposely live you have to be able to recognize those things and Realize when it's time to let something go and when it's time to keep things.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, and I want to piggyback off of that real quick going a little bit more sacrifice. And you have to also Sacrifice how it's going to look to other people when you're living purposefully so you cannot be worried about what he and she and they are going to say when you know what you have Destined for you. You have to, you may have to sacrifice how it looks to social media, how it looks to those who are on the outside not knowing what you're doing to try to drive yourself to get to your purpose or to continue to walk into your purpose. You have to not worry about what, how people see you when you're in that process.
Speaker 1:
Bruce said it, not me. If y'all want to fight someone, it's not me, but no, that's. That's really important, especially because and we're mentioning social media only because that's the type of time where that's we're in that time, we're in the social media frenzy kind of era yeah, and that's just what's in, that's just what it is now. Everybody may not accept that, but that's what it is. So I think the reference in social media is very important, because a lot of times and I've first person to say, I have done it online we want things to look a certain way, just because we feel like we'll be received or certain way. And we spoke about this last episode, maybe the episode before that about being authentic and being yourself and just showing up Unapologetically. You and whoever get with the wave, they ride the wave and the ones who don't, you can drown. No, I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding y'all, but um, but no, that's just how it is. And so I think it's so important to not worry about what it looks like.
Speaker 1:
Right and worry about what it is right.
Speaker 1:
Like what are you really doing in your life? How was your life? How is it really? What does that really look like for you? What does it feel like for you? How is it for you? Because, at the end of the day, is your life to live and no one else. So we spoke about some of those things that were contrary to popular belief, that people don't realize you may need to do or experience in order to live a purposeful life. So I wanted to kind of pick your brain a little bit more about how do you know when you're doing the right thing in life. How do you know when you're on that path to living a purposeful life or you're living in your purpose and you're doing it purposefully?
Speaker 2:
So I would say my opinion again on on on these things when it comes to knowing that you're on the right path, living or striving towards your purpose or walking in your purpose, is that everything seems to go wrong. You can't catch up with the bills. You just get laid off. Someone just passed away that was dear and near to your heart. You have issues relationship wise and it just doesn't seem like you can catch up. You pay, you know, robin peter to pay Paul. There's just a whole lot of things that are. It's just a whole bunch of obstacles in your way and you just never seem to could be. It's always, but you only have seasons for those always.
Speaker 2:
Continuous, not a whole. Sometimes now I, seasons aren't particular now. Usually there are four seasons, as we know, but seasons can be a year, seasons can be two months and seasons are never particularly.
Speaker 1:
You know always a set time.
Speaker 2:
But that's my opinion in regards to that.
Speaker 1:
I feel that. I feel that a lot because sometimes it's like, once you're on that brink, it's like I seen a picture, and it was. It was a man on top and it was a man on the bottom. They were both digging For a diamond, or they were digging for a treasure first day, or maybe they were going one way and one was going the other. Whatever, the whole point is, they both were separately digging Right and they both were looking for treasure, which you can interpret that as their purpose in their life. One man was digging for a very long time apparently they both look really tired, sweating or whatever and the picture shows him basically giving up. He had his back towards where he was digging and he had like his little whatever shovel down. He was walking away from what was the direction of the treasure and then the man underneath, you know, was still working at it or whatever. But when the guy on top, I guess, when he was trying to give up, like literally was like a smidge of dirt, like Not even a whole shovel like it, was just like a little smidge, and it was the biggest diamond ever ever, I mean it was
Speaker 1:
huge and it's like that picture. I seen that like years ago, but it really spoke to me because it's like sometimes, like we're working hard, we're sweating, we're going through things in granted the picture don't show all this, but that's just my interpretation. Like I feel like he went through a lot of stuff. He's trying to get to it, he's putting in work, he's putting in time, he's missing Events or hanging out with friends and family. He may have spent a lot of time and money and a lot of effort to do this. Um, he's probably been bit by some snakes, I don't know lots of different stuff. And then at that last moment he's like okay, this is it, I'm tired, I can't do this anymore, I give up right and then like his treasure was right there.
Speaker 1:
Right, it was literally right there, and it's like if he did not have a lot of money Right there, and it's like if he did not give up he would have, you know, got something major, um. And I feel like that's kind of like similar to what you're saying Like sometimes you have to go through the things to get to where you're trying to go, or to get to the other side or say, um, and I think sometimes on the on the other end that sometimes things can come into, confirm that you're on the right path, um, they're more on the positive side and you just come in, you're like you know what you need to do this. You know this is something we've been doing, even with the podcast. I wanted to give up on this podcast so many times, so many times, and I just can't shake it. I can't shake it, um, but I just always wanted to give up just because it just seemed like every time I would go to record something like.
Speaker 1:
It's just something like I don't care, I don't care, it's just something every time just would pop up and I'm just like I had my mind set. I was like, yeah, let's do this. I have my notes, like I already been thinking about this forever long, and then it's like something every time, and even the times where I would feel like everything's going great.
Speaker 1:
Right it's like, right in the nick of time, it's like something did I'm saying and whoops it all away, and Then I would post it, and then I would get so many not so many, but I would get Quite a few people that would message me, or they would text me and say Thank you, right like I really needed that episode.
Speaker 1:
Yeah or, oh my gosh, this episode really like Grounded me back to reality and like made me think about my life and it's like some things like that.
Speaker 1:
Like, yeah, it's like you feel like you're going through, but then that positive thing just comes in and it swoops and saves the day, and Saves your goals, your dreams or whatever you're about to give up on, and it really confirms for you that hair Maybe you are living your purpose on purpose and that what you're doing is the right path. Even though you're going through Certain things, that does not necessarily mean that you're not doing what you're supposed to do. And then, a lot of times, as believers who say, oh the devil, the devil didn't this. He made it to her and you know it's subjective, did he really? Or are you just not being consistent, or are you just not putting the time and effort, or are you not in your word enough, or are you not? You know just different things that can go into, and it's not always the devil, is not always this Karma. Or you know, whatever people say, there's all types of ways out there that people would like to manipulate, sometimes holding ourselves.
Speaker 2:
Right, right so.
Speaker 1:
I definitely agree.
Speaker 2:
People have to realize that if, if life were easy, if any, if, if what you're trying to accomplish Were to be easy, if you only see. I think they're only about I think it was. I saw it on the internet the other day. I did some research. I think it's only 1% or it's 5% that we only have five black billionaires. That's it five five percent.
Speaker 2:
It's five percent in the you in the world, five percent. So if everything was easy, that number would be larger. It's things that they have to do, is things that they have to sacrifice, like we mentioned prior, that you just have to move forward with in order to get there. So you can't see it as oh, you know. You know cuz I'm I can attest, I've been tired. I used to do my podcast. I had stopped for a minute cuz I just didn't think it was going anywhere. And then I Spoke with Jamie. I got in touch with her and she told me, I told her the situation and she's like, no, you should continue to do it. So we're back here.
Speaker 2:
But you have to realize that anything that's worth having, you have to put in the time and you have to continue to push through those things that you know you. You know that you don't think that you can overcome. It just takes time. It really does, but you can get past it. It all rain forever. The sun don't shine forever. The sun look at it like. Look at it like this that I'm done the Sun and moon both have their balance of how much time that they give Every day, whether you're in the East Central Pacific cold. You know whatever side of you're watching this on their time zone. You have to look at it as that, that the moon has its time, the Sun has its time and they both do what they're supposed to do in both Time frames they both live in their purpose on purpose.
Speaker 1:
Yeah they will do exactly what they were designed and created to do and that's how we are, and I feel like sometimes Our goals and aspirations, things like that we should treat them like a relationship. You know, if you're in a relation or if you're in a relationship, you got to put in time with that person, you got to be intentional, you got to.
Speaker 2:
You know take them out on.
Speaker 1:
Dave, be consistent. You have to be nice, you have to. You know all these different things, but then when it comes to our goals, we barely want to pick up whatever it is, but we want the benefits from it. We want to have that relationship with our goals where we're successful, but we don't want to put in the work.
Speaker 1:
We don't want to communicate with ourselves about what it is we're trying to do. We just want to say, hmm, we want to be like this or we want to do this and we want to get this success Right, but I don't want to talk about anything else. I have to go into it because that's too much work we don't want to do those things.
Speaker 1:
We don't want to put in the time, we don't want to take the time out to do the things that we need to do that other people may not see. But you Right, experiencing them is like it's not always a topical. Having a thing like everyone's not gonna see just what's on that surface, because yours should be putting in work that they don't see right. So it's just a lot of things. Our goal should just be like a relationship. We should treat it just as such.
Speaker 2:
Mention relationship. I really Think that Relationships are really important and I agree that you have to put in that time. Yes, you cannot say I want X, y and Z. You can't. You can't want a hundred million dollars but you have a two dollar mindset. It doesn't work.
Speaker 2:
And they understand that we've been conditioned to a degree of what we are expected to do to get there. But think about it. Now I'm gonna let, I'm gonna get it, because I'm not the host, I'm the guest. If you work nine to five for 40 years, you'll be a millionaire, but it's gonna be over 40 years and it depends on how much you save and what you do with the nine to five. You don't do nothing else, you don't invest, you don't have a side hustle, you just do the 401k and that's it. So you have to really think about if I want something different, if I want to live on purpose, I need to be intentional Intentionally. I need to be intentional on purpose. I need to be intentional on the things that I need to do, things I need to accomplish.
Speaker 2:
There were days where I used to work for the post office and when I started my podcast, I would work from 8 am To 10 pm, having to do a shoot my first guest. We didn't get done shooting until 1 am and then it was scheduled to post that Wednesday. I really wanted to move forward and be successful, to get this information out to you all on YouTube, and I sacrificed a lot of time, a lot of sleep to get that through, but it's because I purposely knew what I wanted to do. So just think about that. When you're trying to move forward and things just keep getting in the way, you just have to. Just once again, you don't rain forever. When you lay your head down and you finish that goal, you would have gotten it done. It's better to get it done and wish you had. Like they always say, I rather have it and not need it.
Speaker 1:
They need it and I haven't. That is so true, and I know you mentioned a little bit about relationships, but let's go a little bit deeper, let's talk about that. So do you feel like, when it comes to living your purpose on Purpose or just purposely living in general, do you think relationships are important? And if you do, why? If you don't, why?
Speaker 2:
so relationships are extremely important, very important for all of my Bible readers out there and those who aren't. We still love you, but there's. There's because of his friend's faith.
Speaker 1:
Because of his friends.
Speaker 2:
I don't ask me what verse. I ask me what chapter. Y'all know who I am. I don't remember.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, find it. Just look up that and I promise it'll pop it up because of his friend's faith that he was able to Restore what they wanted to be restored in him. So relationships are very important. Your circle is very important because your circle can either lift you up or drag you down. Your circle could either advance you two years or can hold you back five. So you have to really look into what your circle is and who is in your circle, and not that they have to Give you money to move forward or Materialistic things. It could be encouragement, it could be holding you accountable, it could be doing the same thing that you're doing making sure you get up in the morning, you, you get your wording and you do your meditation, you exercise, whatever it is. But your relationships are important.
Speaker 2:
If you listen, there are people I've had in my life for a very long time and they're no longer here. I have to make those decisions because our mindsets are not the same. Some people like nine to five. I don't knock it, I'm still doing nine to five, but not always will be doing nine to five. That's not my mindset, because when you go down that route that you get that, that Liberty or that freedom to be able to do what you want to do with your family, your friends.
Speaker 2:
So, having a relationship With, with certain people, whether it's your, your girlfriend, boyfriend, your wife, your husband, your cousins and family, if they don't Accept it and you're on the right track, they got to go. They have to. You ain't got to come cold turkey, but you can gradually cut people off. But you people have to understand that your circle really needs to be motivating, needs to be on the same mindset, on the same plane as you and, if not, you help each other get there. Right, and you be careful of those who are claiming to be in your circle but yet they're screwing holes in the boat because they see you be successful. Now they have a jealous or envy heart, but that's a whole other story.
Speaker 1:
They're trying to figure out why you're sinking or how you're sinking and things like that the whole time is because, yeah, people screwing holes in your boat. But I definitely agree. I agree 1000% and more. Growing up my parents always said and specifically my mother would say, birds of a feather flock together. And I know everybody's like oh, my friends are not me and you know that's. I don't agree. And I've seen people I mean argue people down on the internet about it. But I have to say I agree. I agree that birds of a feather flock together and it could be positive.
Speaker 2:
Right.
Speaker 1:
It does not always have to be negative, it can be positive, but nonetheless, either you're influencing them or they're influencing you.
Speaker 2:
Right and you have to see it as this.
Speaker 2:
That's it. Look, you have to see it as this and I can only talk from my experience. I've had myself in situations to where I've been the one to drag people down, and it's not just. And people think, you know, y'all use this new thing with this energy type thing. I just, I just a spirit. I'm not trying to be real holy, but I've, I didn't use energy growing up, but I understand. But when you like, let's just say if I wasn't financially good every time I would hang around with you. You're going to eventually, it's just, it just happens she's going to be like what's going on with my finances, what's going on with what I'm doing? You have to really look at what you are instilling in someone in your life.
Speaker 2:
You have to really understand that doing what you have to do to move forward purposefully. It needs to be reciprocated in a. It needs to be reciprocated the amount of time, energy and focus needs to be reciprocated in any type of relationship. Every since I connected with Jamie, I've even told her hey, you know, today I, you know, I hold myself accountable when it comes to her, when it comes to this podcast that I'm doing and some of the things that I've done, because why would I do that to her? No, and she's trying to get somewhere and would have. You know, we're supposed to be pod, pod podcasters and I'm just, I'm just dragging along and she's moving forward, but she needs that help. And you got to be careful because sometimes people won't tell you they need help in the relationship. Sometimes that's what you just have to, as a friend, as someone that cares. You just have to push them forward.
Speaker 1:
I'm guilty because I do that a lot. I'm like I got it, I got it, and then I'm like in the house, like spasming out, but no, I agree. I agree with that. I believe that your friends or your circle because it could be family or whoever, even your spouse or your girl from Bourbon they can be your friends. I feel like they can be either on the same level as you. Like you said a little bit before that you have the same type of like the drive, the motivation and things like that, or a new one, a new favorite of mine is trying to be friend people that are actually where I'm trying to go.
Speaker 2:
Right.
Speaker 1:
I feel like because that shows a sense of I got to get there.
Speaker 2:
Right or.
Speaker 1:
I'm trying to get there and also helping. How did you make your first million?
Speaker 2:
dollars Right.
Speaker 1:
What did you do to do all of this? How did you build this successful podcast? How did you build this multi-million dollar photography company Like? These are the things that I look for, not saying that it's always a benefit to a relationship, but I mean that in a sense, that's what it is. When you even get married or, you know, seek after somebody to be in a relationship with. Of course, you love them and they make look good or whatever. At the same time, you look. Any mature person we're looking say okay, can I build a future with this person?
Speaker 2:
Right can.
Speaker 1:
I trust this person with my finances? Can I trust this person with, maybe, future children to raise them in a way that is ethical and For our people that are spirited, that spiritually sound and things like that? What would be equally yoked and different things like that we have to see. So to think about a relationship. Sometimes it is about the benefit, but not just what you benefit, but also what they benefit. So what do you bring to the table? I know this is a big topic and amongst a lot of podcasters out there, but what do you bring to the table? And some people like you know I'm gonna have a table and all this other stuff, but in a sense, that's exactly what it is. Yeah, what do you bring to the table? And because, whatever you're trying to get, what can you give right?
Speaker 1:
It's like a like a seesaw yeah you know, as I, sometimes you may be down, I'm gonna be up, so I'm gonna help you, and vice versa, and we're gonna keep going back and forth until we both are like we're balanced. We're there, and I think that's the goal in the relationship.
Speaker 2:
And there's something that you said that trying to piggyback off I want to piggyback off of is that when it comes to, oh, I lost it that quick. Oh, guys, it can't. When it comes to what did you say? When it comes to your friends, and oh, I got it. So, if I'm trying to, it's all like you befriending the new thing, be friending someone on how you got there. If you're the smartest one in the room, how can you learn from somebody else? So don't be intimidated by those that you'd be friend to get information and wisdom On how they got there.
Speaker 2:
Don't it is okay to be mentored. They have to be a mentee. It's okay to have a mentor to get you where you're trying to go, because Some things that I am also doing outside of podcasts, there is not a handbook for it, there's not a book in the library, there's not many courses on online. I have to start from ground zero and establish my own things, and so I have a mentor to give me that information of what it is that he is doing or what he's trying to do. So it's it's okay to have somebody smarter than you because you're trying to get there. It's okay if they guide you. So don't be intimidated, don't, don't feel like you be a little in yourself by getting a mentor. It's wisdom to get someone that is can can help you to probably get there two years faster Versus five years, because you don't have a Mentor, you want to be stubborn and want to get out the mood yourself.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, and I did a podcast about this a while ago. But collaboration over competition I know that's like a little segue from what we're talking about, but basically sometimes people like to keep certain people around them or in their circle because it allows them to kind of keep that One-up mentality, like they're doing better than what they actually are. And you know it's okay. I feel like once we get over our pride and we get over ourselves moving forward in relationships, you will look at it in another whole view or another whole outlook. All right, so we Realize that relationships are super important when it comes to living your purpose on purpose, for purposeful living in general.
Speaker 1:
And as we wrap up this episode, I just want to ask you, bruce, if you can give my listeners out there, or my viewers out there, one thing, that advice, this one, it can be Anything, what would it be?
Speaker 2:
Give yourself grace to make mistakes and to come back from those mistakes. You're going to make them. You're not perfect, whether that's in relationship for that it's been your finances, whether that's in your goals You're trying to accomplish. Give yourself grace now. Don't continue to give yourself grace to what you give yourself now. No, because now it's gonna be an excuse. Bruce is not telling the viewers to give yourself excuses to not pay your debt off. No, give yourself grace because you were united. You know better, you do better.
Speaker 1:
I love that. I think that's perfect, and I have to learn To give myself grace. Oh, I'm very hard on myself, um, but I think that was great. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you for being my first interview of the year, first interview in a few years, my first interview this season, the first of many. I just love it. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2:
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1:
You're welcome. Um, really quick, I did want you to just let the people know one more time how they can connect with you and where they can follow like.
Speaker 2:
Okay, so once again, my Instagram is the real life, bruce Allen, and then my personal page for Facebook is Bruce Allen and then I also, because it's been a while. I'm not gonna lie to the viewers that I haven't been on my YouTube, so I can't really tell you to type it in, to go look for it, because it will not populate. So I'll probably just give that so she can link it in the bio, I mean in description. Excuse me, but Instagram and Facebook are my two main focus.
Speaker 1:
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